Short workflow for formatting text in MeisterTask with ChatGPT

Joerg Koper
Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
edited August 15 in Get Inspired

Hi guys 👋😉

inspired by the great post "using MindMeister with ChatGPT" from @Andrew Lapidus I had a spontanious idea this morning. What if we let ChatGPT format complex and time-consuming texts and link lists in MeisterTask for us?

This steps took me less than 3 minutes and ChatGPT much less to progress 😅

The command, followed by the output:

Inserted the copied code directly into a task description:

Done:

If you have a project with a selection of links (project research for example), this workflow is a time saver of it's best.

Now let's format some text with the following command:


Here we go:


Copied and directly pasted into the task:

Done:

I have saved this template and can now use it for any text that needs to be structured in this way. Individual adjustments for other programmes are possible at any time and are quickly implemented by ChatGPT.

I love automations 😎😋

Feel free to test this out by yourself and try your own experiments 👍️

Best, Jörg

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  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader

    @Olaf Roeb

    Hi Olaf,

    you can paste the formatted text into a MeisterNote too. Only one additional paragraph was created under the headings, which I corrected in seconds. Shouldn't be a problem to create templates for MeisterNote workflows too.

    I think, ChatGPT is a cool thing to play with but also a way to work smarter in all other relevant business parts, including powerful workflows for the Meister Suite 👍️

    Best, Jörg

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  • Olaf Roeb
    Olaf Roeb MT Tester, EN Pro Posts: 121 Star Contributor
    edited January 30

    Thank you, Jörg, sorry, I need to clarify my question to: Can you imagine (please don't try if you don't need it for yourself, I need to experiment on that myself anyway) a workflow to preformat MeisterNote into blocks/blockstyles to result in styles like this exemplary screenshot of a Note of mine:


  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited January 30

    I understand @Olaf Roeb 👍️

    I think, because of the special workflow in MeisterNote with the / followed by the menu of available formattings the solution could be a script on your machine. There are surely already some very good programmes for recording macros available. ChatGPT is only processing what you tell it in his own work space.

    But if you let ChatGPT do the first formatting of your text, you can do the finetuning in short steps after you have pasted it in MeisterNote 😊

    Als Experten-Partner von Meister führe ich in meiner Agentur u. a. Workshops für die Integration der Meister Software durch. Hier in der Community freue ich mich auf den Austausch mit Euch und helfe bei Fragen zu MeisterTask, MindMeister und MeisterNote gerne weiter.

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  • Olaf Roeb
    Olaf Roeb MT Tester, EN Pro Posts: 121 Star Contributor

    Thank you so much, Jörg. I am really curious by now to find out what is possible with ChatGPT - alone and in combination with the Suite. Hab einen schönen Nachmittag!

  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader

    You will be surprised what ChatGPT is able to do @Olaf Roeb . Countless opportunities... 👀

    Dir auch eine schönen Tag und eine entspannte Restwoche Olaf 👋😉

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  • Rooster McNugget
    Rooster McNugget MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 444 Community Leader

    Hi everybody,

    I just let translate this text:

    Wow, the software is amazing! I just tried CHATGPT and I'm speechless! The results are simply crazy! By the way, I wrote this text in German and had it translated. The speed at which my text was translated is simply crazy! I think I will translate my texts more often through openai in the future!

    I‘m really impressed! 😂 This thing is amazing!

    Best, Samuel

    The impossible does not exist! The solution has just not been found yet!

  • Olaf Roeb
    Olaf Roeb MT Tester, EN Pro Posts: 121 Star Contributor
    edited January 30

    With AI really working for my benefit it's a moment I expect to compare with the experience of the British when they first saw Alan Turing's machine working on decoding and CodeBreaking German secret messages in Bletchley Park :-)

  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader

    @Rooster McNugget

    Hey Samuel,😂

    I see...you're infected with the ChatGPT Virus too 😂

    This project is just awesome, isn't it?

    Best, Jörg 👋😉

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  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader

    I'm sure a lot of people have actually thought the same way the last weeks Olaf 😄

    I have tried codings and other stuff and it worked incredibly fast. This is one of the most powerful tools I have had at my disposal so far.

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  • Rooster McNugget
    Rooster McNugget MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 444 Community Leader

    Man, it hit me hard! 🤣Now I have to schedule my work time better until my curiosity about the many possibilities of ChatGPT settles down!😏

    The impossible does not exist! The solution has just not been found yet!

  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited January 30

    @Andrew Lapidus

    That's brilliant Andrew 😂

    I absolutely agree with your thoughts 👍️ And "nerdish by nature" as I am, I always try to figure out how to shorten workflows and how to deligate them to AI-Software as often as possible too.

    Would be great if Meister some day would have implemented an API to ChatGP and could offer those workflows directly in the Meister Suite....may I should write a feature request? 😎

    Best, Jörg

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  • Andrew Lapidus
    Andrew Lapidus Admin, MeisterLobster, EN Business Posts: 873 Community Admin

    😁😁 Agreed - Chat GPT and other AI tools have totally changed the conversation for tech companies everywhere - just read about Google's major investment in a potential Chat GPT competitor last week.

    The situation is similar at Meister - our devs just finished "innovation week", and there was quite a lot of internal discussion about where AI will lead the Meister Suite, with some exciting propositions 😁 There's nothing firmly on the roadmap yet, as it's still a bit of an open question as to the most ideal way to implement machine learning and AI, but the team is definitely aiming in this direction...😎 More news to follow!

  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited January 30

    As far as I know Microsoft is planning to make a major investment in ChatGPT too. Heard about 10 billion dollars. We will see 😊

    This all reads very fascinatingly Andrew and I am sure that Meister will also have very powerful AI tools at his disposal in the future.

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  • Olaf Roeb
    Olaf Roeb MT Tester, EN Pro Posts: 121 Star Contributor

    A superb tool-free real-life-only plan for a weekend in the beautiful Black Forest winter landscapes - GONE! That's so amazing...

  • Olaf Roeb
    Olaf Roeb MT Tester, EN Pro Posts: 121 Star Contributor

    Remember, Jörg, shortening workflows can be a very time-consuming process...

  • Admin BSF.company
    Admin BSF.company International Partner, MT Tester, EN Business Posts: 487 Community Leader

    Wow, I missed this thread before.

    I've so much to test for myself with everything I just saw here. Thanks for the insightful discussion, gentlemen!

    Keep those good ideas coming 👏👏👏👏👏

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  • Admin BSF.company
    Admin BSF.company International Partner, MT Tester, EN Business Posts: 487 Community Leader

    @Jörg Koper I was wondering if some of these methods you described here could be used to avoid the manual formatting described by @Andrew Lapidus in point 3 of this other post...?

    I probably will have time to test and try for myself the next weekend, but I wanted to know from your experience guys if manually "tabbing" all topics could be avoided in some way.

    Best regards.

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  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited February 23

    Good morning mate 👋😉

    I'm pretty sure, that it will work @Andres D'Andrea, and I'm sure, that you can tell us in the next days, how it can be made 😊👍️

    I think we can tell ChatGPT in a related command, with which offset the sub-points should have to be arranged. In this post I have used a similar "command", but with a closer look we see a little mistake, because I didn't create the main topic 👀😋

    Have a great day, Andres

    Jörg

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  • Andrew Lapidus
    Andrew Lapidus Admin, MeisterLobster, EN Business Posts: 873 Community Admin
    edited February 23

    Would also be very interested in a method of avoiding this tabbing. Will take a quick look...

    EDIT: Hm.. no, MindMeister didn't seem to like that. Maybe you'd have better luck Andres?

    As a side note, I actually think that importing outlines etc. into MindMeister could be a much more streamlined process... imho it seems to a bit a bit finicky with the outlines it recognizes. Might create a feature request of my own!

  • Admin BSF.company
    Admin BSF.company International Partner, MT Tester, EN Business Posts: 487 Community Leader

    Thanks @Jörg Koper, I'll give it a try and get back with comments here buddy.

    @Andrew Lapidus, in case importing the full outline is too complicated, maybe we could suggest an easier way of formatting the thing manually.

    A while ago, I noticed the necessity of having to manually jump between the mouse and the keyboard on the new MindMeister Outline Mode. Like you showed in the GIF above.

    One suggestion could be mimicking the user interface of another solution called Workflowy (bulleted lists on steroids)

    One could spend hours working in Workflowy without touching the mouse because everything is doable with just the keyboard, and, in my case, that's the real pain when I have to work in the Outline Mode of MindMeister: the constant jumping between mouse and keyboard.

    I mean, I have no problems with having to format the outline manually… But having to jump between the mouse and the keyboard… 😞

    Do you think this could fit in the same request? Or better make a separate one?

    In case you think it's better to bundle the request, please tag me if you post it to include my comments, and maybe, some illustrations of what I mean.

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  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited February 24

    @Andres D'Andrea @Andrew Lapidus

    Hi guys 👋🙂

    I have created a command and saved it as a shortcut. The command to remove the "Main Heading" refers to the title "Main Heading" that would automatically be created by ChatGPT 😄

    Then I used my shortcut in ChatGPT and inserted some desired topics and nodes:

    My result:

    Inserted in outline mode of MindMeister:

    Result as a Mind Map:

    This test took about five minutes 🙂

    ... I'm afraid, we can't work that fast. Not to forget, how much faster ChatGPT's output would be, if we tell it to make some researches about anything for us and to format the output like in the example above 👀

    What do you think?

    Best, Jörg

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  • Admin BSF.company
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    @Jörg Koper --> no words, brother! 👆

    Thanks for your help and diligence, good fellow 🙏

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  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited February 24

    😂 @Andres D'Andrea

    I think, this toy has lots of potential Andres 😎😊

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  • Andrew Lapidus
    Andrew Lapidus Admin, MeisterLobster, EN Business Posts: 873 Community Admin

    amazing, You cracked the code! 🙌 🙌 I never would have considered using the phrasing "move the subheadings one step to the right" - this led to the exact formatting I was trying to create with all sorts of different combinations of explaining "indentation" to ChatGPT. Interesting how using AI tools in itself becomes its own skill!

    Definitely agree with you @Andres D'Andrea re: outline mode — imho, the the feature could use some improvement. After writing my comment yesterday, I had a bit of a chat with our MindMeister Product Manager about outline mode and the general workflows for turning text into mind maps. From this chat, it seems clear to me that the team will in the future look towards a solution for this workflow involves MeisterNote. For example, being able to use MeisterNote blocks (to-dos, bullets etc.) as the basis of a mind map would allow a native integration to MindMeister (read: more accuracy and smoother experience.)

  • Joerg Koper
    Joerg Koper DACH Partner, MT Tester, DE Business Posts: 976 Community Leader
    edited February 24

    😄 @Andrew Lapidus

    I have to admit, that I also had to learn in the beginnings of my work with AI, that it's often a good way to explain it things like a child 😉

    But as I said, I see a lot of potential in ChatGPT. Even for the integrated work with the API's of Meister. I think it would be a good idea, to talk about it more detailed in Slack. As far as I can see, @Andres D'Andrea is also very close to come aboard 💪😎

    I'm wishing you all a relaxed weekend.

    Best, Jörg

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  • Andrew Lapidus
    Andrew Lapidus Admin, MeisterLobster, EN Business Posts: 873 Community Admin
  • Admin BSF.company
    Admin BSF.company International Partner, MT Tester, EN Business Posts: 487 Community Leader

    @Andrew Lapidus, as I said to @Jörg Koper last week in a PM:

    I'm pretty excited about the potential these two threads have shown in the last weeks:

    Depending on what one does for a living, ☝ those could be the two most valuable threads in the whole community, for sure!

    Thanks for your inputs, and keep it up folks 👏👏👏👏👏

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